Commons:Deletion requests/2023/10/07

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October 7[edit]

File:Traveller Pride mural, St. Margaret’s Park, Ballymun.jpg[edit]

Similar to UK, no freedom of panorama for "graphic works" in Ireland A1Cafel (talk) 02:36, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


hi,
I would argue against the proposed deletion of the photo of the Traveller Pride mural located at the entrance of the Halting Site on Margaret's Road, Dublin, Ireland. I ask that you consider the following.
This addition to Wikimedia Commons was included in Wiki Loves Folklore 2021
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Folklore_2021/Ireland
The basic aim of which is to collect photos of human cultural diversity to illustrate articles in various Wikimedia Foundation projects.
The cultural group being celebrated in the mural is under-represented in society at large. For members and allies to see the mural photographed and reproduced on the internet (and no mere blog or forum but rather on Wikipedia no less) has immeasurably positive effects.
From my perspective the Reason listed for the nomination: i.e. "Similar to UK, no freedom of panorama for "graphic works" in Ireland", is not being applied universally. There are, in fact, many Wikimedia Commons categories for street art, with circa 200 photos of murals in Belfast. The inclusion of such images add to the spirit of the free online encyclopaedia; universal application of the reason for deletion would see Wikimedia be much poorer as a result. If I have failed to properly Categorise the photo, then feel free to point me in the direction of where I can be educated so as to learn from my mistake.
The mural in question has since been destroyed in an act of anti-social behaviour. Outside of Flickr, this photo on Wiki Commons is all that remains of a moment that captures cooperation among different families, generations and genders. A feat of mutualism that resulted in a outpouring of creativity. The mural both celebrates cultural pride generally and also facilitated the cultivation of pride for this specific collaboration between people for whom art lies outside of their everyday lives. Cograng (talk) 12:32, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Cograng sorry but, Irish murals still under artists' copyrights are not allowed on Wikimedia Commons. Images must be commercially resuable (thru commercial Creative Commons licenses) without restraint from artists of the depicted artworks. Irish copyright law does not include flat arts like murals as among works that can be freely depicted in photographs (those can only be depicted for non-commercial or private purposes). Only buildings, sculptural monuments, and artworks by craftsmen or artisans like stained-glass windows and mosaics are permitted to be photographed for free or commercial purposes. It is the mistake of the Irish organizers of Wiki Loves Folklore if they included murals in their list of works that can be photographed.
There is one more option, though. You, as the photographer/uploader, should contact the artists of the mural you depicted in your photo, and ask for their clearance on the commercial Creative Commons license you applied to your photo. They should send an email agreeing to that license to Wikimedia via email address indicated at COM:VRTS.
Wikimedia Commons does not accept non-commercial licenses, which do not conform to the Principle of Free Cultural Works that Commons:Licensing policy upholds. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 09:20, 23 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:LiberalAU[edit]

The websites copyright statement doesn't licences images GMH Melbourne (talk) 06:34, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:P1410069 Церква Непорочного Зачаття Пресвятої Діви Марії (Тернопіль).jpg[edit]

And also

There is no freedom of panorama in Ukraine and the photos violate painters copyright. Reconstruction after 2000. Derivatives of work. No Permission from the painters Ігор Зілінко, Михайло Миколайчук, Ярослав Новак, Валерій Лебедь. Микола Василечко (talk) 07:04, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

І без дозволу попів?! Чи не в цьому справа? Ви б краще, шановний пане, боролися за видалення пам'ятників "героям" НКВС, СМЕРШУ та іншим більшовикам. В очах рябить від їх кількості! Бондар Володимир (talk) 12:04, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Вам хто заважає боротися «за видалення пам'ятників "героям" НКВС, СМЕРШУ та іншим більшовикам», якщо вам «в очах рябить від їх кількості!»? --Микола Василечко (talk) 16:20, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:Chairman of the Supreme People’s Assembly of the DPRK Pak Thae-song1.jpg[edit]

Дубликат файла File:Pak_Thae-song_in_Moscow.jpg - он в высоком разрешении MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 07:33, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:PamyatnykMikolaïvka.jpg[edit]

There is no freedom of panorama in Ukraine. Ymblanter (talk) 08:00, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


File:ТернопільP1410050 Майдан Волі.jpg[edit]

There is no freedom of panorama in Ukraine and the photos violate sculptors and architects copyright. Created 2002. Derivatives of work. No Permission from the sculptors Борис and Богдан Руді. Микола Василечко (talk) 08:01, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Files in Category:Проєкт "Шукай"[edit]

There is no freedom of panorama in Ukraine and the photos violate sculptors and architects copyright. Created 2018-2023. Derivatives of work. No Permission from the sculptors Сергій Галенко, Марко Галенко, Дар'я Вовк, Юрій Білявський, Ольга Колесник. --Микола Василечко (talk) 08:14, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

all files! --Микола Василечко (talk) 20:25, 20 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


File:The University Hymn Book.djvu[edit]

Per the concern expressed in s:Wikisource:Copyright_discussions#Index:The_University_Hymn_Book.djvu ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:54, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The relevant concern being: "The issue is the contribution of a Canadian author, who was still active in the 1960's.
Namely :- w:Ernest_MacMillan (18 August 1893 – 6 May 1973)."
Commons needs the work to be out of copyright in both the US and origin countries. I'm not sure this the case for this item.
ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:55, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
This file should be transferred to English Wikisource and the Commons file deleted.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 13:30, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  •  Delete. Copyright outside the US due to contributions from author that lived until 1973. File was INUSE on enWS so it has been copied locally (enWS only requires works to be PD in the US, which this one is being published more than 95 years ago). --Xover (talk) 19:40, 17 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:Develey-Johann-vector-sepia.jpg[edit]

Horrible attempt at making a vector version of [1]. The original file should be uploaded instead. I would guess that it is PD-old already, considering Johann Develey died in 1886. The unknown painter probably died more than 70 years ago. XenonX3 (talk) 11:41, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Files found with Special:Search/insource:"Mauricio Nievas"[edit]

The images say the photographer Mauricio Nievas released this in the public domain, but the template was added by the uploaded and there is no source of such claim. Also these images feature copyrighted artworks and there is no indication that they have a free license (notice there is no FOP in Argentina). We need a COM:VRT from the photographer and a source indication the artworks have a free license (e.g. permission from artists).

Günther Frager (talk) 12:41, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:Mural-Sergio-Karakachoff-2019.jpg[edit]

Mural installed in 2019 in la Plata. There is no freedom of panorama in Argentina for non-architectural works. Günther Frager (talk) 12:49, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:Мікалай Іванавіч Гусеў.jpg[edit]

No evidence of public domain, random date of creation, adequate rationale missing. Komarof (talk) 14:26, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Komarof The date of the photo is not random. The photo is posted in the catalog of the exhibition, which was held in 1941. This means the photo was taken in 1941 or earlier. The exact date was not indicated in the source. -- Maksim L. (talk) 17:06, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:Знак «Отличник социалистического соревнования Главленинградстроя».webp[edit]

Verifiable source missing, probably a non-free photo of 3d object, photographer's permission required. Komarof (talk) 14:54, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This deletion discussion is now closed. Please do not make any edits to this archive. You can read the deletion policy or ask a question at the Village pump. If the circumstances surrounding this file have changed in a notable manner, you may re-nominate this file or ask for it to be undeleted.

Files uploaded by Art-and-Air (talk · contribs)[edit]

License {{PD-RU-exempt}} is not applicable. The depicted coin is not a state symbol of the Russian Federation and copyrightable.

Well-Informed Optimist (talk) 08:37, 4 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  •  Delete While {{PD-RU-exempt}} says: "state symbols and signs (flags, emblems, orders, any forms of money, and the like), as well as symbols and signs of municipal formations;", this does not appear to be legal tender issued by Russia. An objet d'art that merely happens for have the physical shape of a coin is not ipso facto money in any meaningful sense. --Xover (talk) 16:34, 16 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Deleted: per nomination and Xover. --IronGargoyle (talk) 05:10, 17 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Files uploaded by Art-and-Air (talk · contribs)[edit]

These are just copyrighted badges/medals, not state symbols as PD rationale states. No evidence of PD. The last one has the author's name on it.

Komarof (talk) 15:04, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:Piramides de mexico.jpg[edit]

I question the uploader's authorship. They uploaded it saying it was piramids in Mexico state, then adding Metadata Teotihuacan. It is recognizable as a different famous ruin in Mexico, El Tajin, in Veracruz state. (I have changed the description and categories accordingly.) I suppose it's possible the uploader was confused and thought they were at a different famous ruin in a different part of Mexico, but to this extent seems unlikely. No EXIF. I did not find the image elsewhere in a reverse image search, but the view is a fairly common tourist shot. Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 15:12, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Files uploaded by Le Projecteur (talk · contribs)[edit]

Last remining images, no EXIF data, screenshots, montages, very unlikely to be own works.

Yann (talk) 15:49, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Bonjour,
Je certifie que ces images sont bien la propriété de Le Projecteur, qui les a lui-même réalisées.
Je trouve votre réactivité déplacée et peu encourageante pour les néophytes Wikipedia, car comme je l'ai indiqué à "Supertoff" qui s'est avéré être un administrateur que je prenais pour quelqu'un de malveillant ayant par 3 fois supprimé mon contenu et qui a bloqué mon compte, j'ai commencé hier le remplissage de cette page utilisateur en toute bonne foi, et lui ai laissé le message ci-dessous, demandant mon déblocage et la réouverture de cette page dans les conditions mentionnées ci-dessous.
Il a fallu que l'on me supprime cette page pour que je découvre les messages d'avertissement !!
Merci
MESSAGE laissé à 13h52
"Bonjour
Néo utilisateur de Wikipedia, en créant cette page, j'ai cru à un actee malveillant en constatant sa suppression !!!
je pense avoir été victime d'un péché de jeunesse en y insérant une iconographie que je pensais pouvoir y insérer à partir d'icônes dont je suis propriétaire, et j'avoue ne pas avoir compris sa suppression et son blocage.
Cette page n'ayant pas eu de problème avant l'insertion de ces images, pouvez-vous me la débloquer que je la remette dans l'état précédent.
Merci
Le Projecteur Le Projecteur (discuter) 7 octobre 2023 à 13:52 (CEST)[répondre]
PS : et j'avoue ne pas avoir vu d'avertissement...
Merci Le Projecteur (discuter) 7 octobre 2023 à 13:53 (CEST) Le Projecteur (talk) 18:04, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Le Projecteur: Si ces images sont les vôtres, pour chacune, il faut fournir les sources. Par exemple, pour File:IcoIA2.png, quelle est l'image utilisée ? Si c'est la vôtre, il faut l'importer sur Commons, ou confirmer la licence par email (via COM:VRT). En l'absence de preuve, si les informations sont manquantes, elles seront supprimées. Yann (talk) 19:31, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:Меморіальний комплекс на честь учасників бойових дій в Афганістані.jpg[edit]

There is no freedom of panorama in Ukraine and the photos violate sculptors and architects copyright. Created after 1989. Derivatives of work. No Permission from the sculptor. Микола Василечко (talk) 16:36, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


File:Памятник воинам-интернационалистам (Кременчуг).jpg[edit]

There is no freedom of panorama in Ukraine and the photos violate sculptors and architects copyright. Created after 1989. Derivatives of work. No Permission from the sculptor. Микола Василечко (talk) 16:36, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


File:Monument "On the Afghan Trail" (2019-01-26).jpg[edit]

There is no freedom of panorama in Ukraine and the photos violate sculptors and architects copyright. Created after 1989. Derivatives of work. No Permission from the sculptor. Микола Василечко (talk) 16:36, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


File:Monument "On the Afghan Trail" 01.jpg[edit]

There is no freedom of panorama in Ukraine and the photos violate sculptors and architects copyright. Created after 1989. Derivatives of work. No Permission from the sculptor. Микола Василечко (talk) 16:36, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


File:Monument "On the Afghan Trail" 02.jpg[edit]

There is no freedom of panorama in Ukraine and the photos violate sculptors and architects copyright. Created after 1989. Derivatives of work. No Permission from the sculptor. Микола Василечко (talk) 16:36, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


File:Меморіальний комплекс на честь воїнів, учасників бойових дій в Афганістані.jpg[edit]

There is no freedom of panorama in Ukraine and the photos violate sculptors and architects copyright. Created after 1989. Derivatives of work. No Permission from the sculptor. Микола Василечко (talk) 16:36, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


File:Пам'ятник Т.Г. Шевченко 2004 року.jpg[edit]

There is no freedom of panorama in Ukraine and the photos violate sculptors and architects copyright. Created after 2004. Derivatives of work. No Permission from the sculptor Микола Степаненко. Микола Василечко (talk) 16:38, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


File:Monument to Taras Shevchenko in Kremenchuk-2010.jpg[edit]

There is no freedom of panorama in Ukraine and the photos violate sculptors and architects copyright. Created after 2004. Derivatives of work. No Permission from the sculptor Микола Степаненко. Микола Василечко (talk) 16:38, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


File:Пам'ятник Т. Г. Шевченку — українському поету.jpg[edit]

There is no freedom of panorama in Ukraine and the photos violate sculptors and architects copyright. Created after 1978. Derivatives of work. No Permission from the sculptor Аркадій Юхимович Мацієвській. Микола Василечко (talk) 16:39, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


File:Monument to Taras Shevchenko, Svitlovodsk (2019-07-19) 02.jpg[edit]

There is no freedom of panorama in Ukraine and the photos violate sculptors and architects copyright. Created after 1978. Derivatives of work. No Permission from the sculptor Аркадій Юхимович Мацієвській. Микола Василечко (talk) 16:40, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


File:Monument to Taras Shevchenko, Svitlovodsk (2019-07-19) 03.jpg[edit]

There is no freedom of panorama in Ukraine and the photos violate sculptors and architects copyright. Created after 1978. Derivatives of work. No Permission from the sculptor Аркадій Юхимович Мацієвській. Микола Василечко (talk) 16:40, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


File:Скульптурна композиція «Щука з Кременчука» - 2.jpg[edit]

And all files from category Category:Pike from Kremenchuk sculpture

There is no freedom of panorama in Ukraine and the photos violate sculptors and architects copyright. Created after 2009. Derivatives of work. No Permission from the sculptor Володимир Максименко. Микола Василечко (talk) 16:42, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


File:Пам'ятник пожежникам-ліквідаторам аварії на ЧАЕС 2020.jpg[edit]

There is no freedom of panorama in Ukraine and the photos violate sculptors and architects copyright. Created after 1996. Derivatives of work. No Permission from the sculptor. Микола Василечко (talk) 16:44, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


File:Пам'ятний знак «Галушки», 2006 рік.jpg[edit]

There is no freedom of panorama in Ukraine and the photos violate sculptors and architects copyright. Created after 2000. Derivatives of work. No Permission from the sculptor. Микола Василечко (talk) 16:45, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


File:Меморіальна дошка на честь українського композитора, педагога, професора А. П. Коломійця.jpg[edit]

There is no freedom of panorama in Ukraine and the photos violate sculptors and architects copyright. Created after 1997. Derivatives of work. No Permission from the sculptor. Микола Василечко (talk) 16:46, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


File:Меморіальна дошка на честь народного артиста України В. Мірошниченка.jpg[edit]

There is no freedom of panorama in Ukraine and the photos violate sculptors and architects copyright. Created after 2001. Derivatives of work. No Permission from the sculptor. Микола Василечко (talk) 16:46, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


File:Transcription of Chapter XII De Toparchis de Hagesteyn - Antonius Matthaeus III De Iure Gladii, 1689.pdf[edit]

Out of scope: plain text. Transcriptions of documents are handled at Wikisource. Omphalographer (talk) 17:03, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Ompholographer Dear Ompholographer,
Thanks for your interest. I see your point, but i am wondering how to accomodate a fragment on Wikisource. It seems out of scope there? This indeed plain text chapter here at Commons is simply to help researchers, students and other interested people studying Dutch (legal) history getting to grips with this difficult 17th century learned study in Latin, French and Dutch all mixed up...(About the right to have an army for a town Hagesteyn in the mediaeval bishopric of Utrecht.) It seems to not fit well on Wikisource as it is not a full-text book .dvi with transcription - as is standard on wikisource - or similar. What do you think? Thank you, Hansmuller (talk) 10:00, 11 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Files uploaded by Eve73 (talk · contribs)[edit]

Not own works. Some old images may be in the public domain due to lack of copyright notice or renewal, but evidence must be provided.

Yann (talk) 17:37, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Wait – It looks like the uploader has uploaded what is basically personal images received from the person appearing in the photos, ref de:Wikipedia:Qualitätssicherung/7._Oktober_2023#Albert_C._Humphrey. It might be better to refer this user to Commons:VRT. TommyG (talk) 10:40, 8 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
So how would that make them any less copyvio? The uploader has in fact stated that they have received them from the image subject, and that he owns the Urheberrecht - which is simply not possible at least for the ones where German Urheberrecht law applies.
Anyway, certainly none of these are the uploader's "own work" from 2023. --2003:C0:8F31:D700:E431:71DE:8097:E920 12:00, 8 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  •  Keep To be eligible for a copyright in the United States you had to register for a copyright and renew that copyright up to 1964. from 1977 to 1989 you had 5 years to register for a copyright. After 1989 all images were copyrighted without the need to register. I have searched through both databases and there are no registrations or renewals for any variations of this person's name. Several look post 1989, but if the uploader is making a claim that a family member or they took the images, they can release under cc or cc-heirs. All noobs use the upload date as date=. because that is the default setting. We fix, rather than delete. --RAN (talk) 22:28, 8 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Copies had to be published/distributed though to lose copyright. Having some prints from friends may not count. The early family photographs, he could well be able to license them as an heir. The US Army one is PD-USGov, so that should be OK (and a copy was clearly distributed to him if not PD-USGov). A lot of the others are muddier. Carl Lindberg (talk) 00:49, 9 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:Ciel rouge avant la tempête Philippe.jpg[edit]

Photo without META proving the ownership by the uploader and wrong date as the TS passed in Guadeloupe of Octobre 2, 2023 Pierre cb (talk) 18:14, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Bonjour, qu'est-ce que c'est que cette bêtise ? J'ai daté en mettant hier cette photo sur Commons à cette date car le portable que j'utilise aujourd'hui (un Xiomi) n'a pas la fonction de datation qu'avait mon ancien portable (un Samsung). Je ne comprends pas ce que signifie la fonction META ? Mais je jure que je suis bien l'auteur de cette photo ! Enrevseluj (talk) 20:52, 8 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Plus exactement, ma femme a pris la photo et me l'a envoyé par Whatsapp pour la mettre sur Commons. Enrevseluj (talk) 21:06, 8 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Pierre cb: . Comment puis-je retélécharger la photo ? Lorsque j'essaie de le faire, un message me dit que le fichier existe déjà ? Cordialement. Enrevseluj (talk) 23:58, 8 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Enrevseluj: Il suffit d'utiliser le lien Téléverser une nouvelle version de ce fichier qui mène à https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Upload&wpDestFile=Ciel_rouge_avant_la_temp%C3%AAte_Philippe.jpg&wpForReUpload=1 et de télécharger votre nouvelle version depuis votre source. Quand je fais cela, c'est depuis mon ordinateur, je ne sais pas comment ça se fait d'un autre médium. Pierre cb (talk) 02:33, 9 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Non, cela me marque : Le fichier téléversé est une copie exacte de la version actuelle de File:Ciel rouge avant la tempête Philippe.jpg. Je ne sais absolument pas comment faire. Moi, j ai juste voulu mettre ce cliché montrant un phénomène particulier alors que j ai lu qq part que cela se produisait souvent avant un événement de ce type. J ai téléchargé une deuxième photo que la copine de mon fils a pris au même moment et là les métadonnées apparaissent bien sauf que cela date du 8 octobre alors que la photo est du 2. Après est-ce que cela ne se date pas du moment où les photos sont envoyées par Whatssapp ? Bref, je ne maîtrise pas ce sujet là.
Concernant les photos de la tempête, il y a peu d éléments à photographier. Les réparations ont été faîtes assez rapidement et le coin où j habite a été moins touché que le coin de Goyave par exemple. J ai juste remarqué des fils électriques qui pendent sur la chaussée à Deshaies derrière le collège. Voulez-vous que je les photographie quand même ? Cordialement.
Enrevseluj (talk) 00:01, 10 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]