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Sorry, but it is about a DR[edit]

Hi Ruthven, I don't really care about the files you kept. But TOOːSwitzerland says images are copyrighted "irrespective of their value or purpose". In my opinion one can't cite TOOːSwitzerland to keep an image because what is depicted is not deemed important enough as you did here. But if you can, I of course will adapt to that and try to evaluate a bit before nominating. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 14:27, 3 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi Paradise Chronicle, you fail to mention the first part of the phrase. Works must have individual character in order to be copyrightable. Here I don't think it's the case. Ruthven (msg) 12:10, 6 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ok, thanks then it seems I misunderstood. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 23:59, 6 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It seemed to me that any picture taken by an individual (or person) was copyrightable as the second part concerned the automatically (such as by surveillance cameras) created files. The photograph in question was taken by a person with a camera. The hut is on one of the highest mountains in the country, only to get there needs a lot of individual energy. So if that is not copyrightable, I'll adapt and nominate less for deletion until I believe I understand better.

ToO in Italy[edit]

I don't really feel debating the merits of you closing Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Terzo palazzo degli uffici ENI as keep because the building was supposedly below the threshold of originality, but I am interested in where you think the line is and if there's any legal cases or something I could read about so I can avoid nominating images that are below the threshold of originality in Italy for deletion again. I know the standard there is high, but I would have thought at least that building was unique to be copyrighted. Thanks. Adamant1 (talk) 17:43, 3 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Adamant1 If you look at the pages on Commons about Italian ToO, they all say that the bar is very high (thus, the same applies to building, and any other artwork). In Italy there are no known jurisdiction about FoP violation. If you add this to several local laws or decrees that go in the direction of FoP, it makes a situation very close to Argentina, where FoP exists de facto. We had a discussion years ago, that ended up in Template:FoP-Italy, then deleted because it wasn't clear for all the possible images on Commons (in particular sculptures), and for those building who falls below COM:TOO, we already have regular evaluation mechanisms that are already functioning on Commons. Ruthven (msg) 12:08, 6 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sempre dubbi copyright....[edit]

Trovo File:Colonna, Vittoria – Rime, 1982 – BEIC 1789098.djvu, e mi domando: siamo a posto? è scansione di un testo pubblicato nel 1982, come siamo con il copyright USA? Ti domando perchè vedo che nella cronologia sei passato anche tu, il che mi tranquillizza, ma vorrei capire meglio il problema (che poi è presente in tutti i testi recenti della collana Scrittori d'Italia). Alex_brollo Talk|Contrib 06:38, 7 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Alex brollo Per gli USA dipende da quando è stato pubblicato il lavoro. Una semplice riproduzione non comporta un nuovo copyright. Ruthven (msg) 08:54, 10 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Ruthven Allora abbiamo un vasto problema, per tutti i testi di Scrittori d'Italia pubblicati dopo il 1923... :-( a cui chi ha caricato ha attribuito abusivamente il PD US dichiarando che la data di pubblicazione è 1923 o precedente. Uffa! Forse la cosa è stata tollerata... speriamo; io però non lavoro su quelli così recenti. Ho capito bene? Alex_brollo Talk|Contrib 09:44, 10 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Alex brollo Non è più 1923 da anni! :) Si contano 95 anni dalla pubblicazione (negli USA), in genere. Va visto caso per caso, perché se il testo era nel pubblico dominio in Italia nel 1976, allora va bene per gli USA. Ruthven (msg) 09:48, 10 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:FoP-Italy/en[edit]

Template:FoP-Italy/en has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this template, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!
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A1Cafel (talk) 11:58, 18 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:FoP-Italy/it[edit]

Template:FoP-Italy/it has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

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A1Cafel (talk) 11:58, 18 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Cancellazione file doppi[edit]

Ciao Ruthven, qual è la procedura per chiedere la cancellazione di un file doppio? Esempio File:Chiesa di San Pietro di Cagli - Aula - 2004.jpeg e File:Cagli - Chiesa di San Pietro - 2004.jpg --Caulfield (talk) 08:12, 23 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Caulfield Inserisci nella pagina {{Duplicate}}, con il file duplicato. Ruthven (msg) 11:28, 23 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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